新西兰网友评论:中国移民和房产中介称奥克兰太像中国了

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  上周,新西兰优先党领袖温斯顿・彼特斯谈到他收到的一封来自奥克兰的中国房地产中介的关于移民和住房市场的内容的邮件。彼得斯说,中介支持他声称投机盛行的说法。中介在该行业工作了三年。他在这里详述了自己的观点。
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  I am a Chinese property agent working in Auckland. Recently I emailed the New Zealand First leader Winston Peters expressing opinions on the housing crisis and immigration policy.

  我是移民,正好在奥克兰房地产市场的风尖浪口,我想我不得不发声的观点对这个国家其他地区也有借鉴意义。
  My family moved to central Auckland in 2001 from mainland China. We came here with the hope of embracing a new lifestyle as well as for the younger generation to receive a superior education.

  我们印象中的奥克兰,是一个独特的融合了欧洲文化与本土文化被称为“几维”的城市,来自不同种族的移民的涌入,不断增添了活力的色彩和城市的繁荣。
  Years went by and something curious happened.

  与平衡的民族融合相反,奥克兰开始弥漫一股令人讨厌的中国味。
  There are poorly designed cheap signs written only in Chinese or with minimal English at every corner of the central suburbs.

  这些是小杂货铺、网吧、餐馆以及一些看上去可疑的专供中国顾客餐饮的地方。
  Most of them have part time Chinese students as sole employees.

  最近在东京邂逅两位日本小白领的经历我觉得很搞笑。
  ”Going to Auckland is like going to China” they said.

  “你听不到英文,你看不到几维,那里只有中文中文中文。”
  They felt disillusioned and bewildered. Similar voices are heard among local international students “Are we here to study English or Chinese?”

  房地产市场也是同样的情形。
  While the statistics show there has been 3-5 per cent foreign buyers in the market is it what we have been seeing across the auction rooms or at open homes for the past half decade?

  我不会忘记年轻夫妇们十指紧扣,死死盯住拍卖屏幕,才发现自己最初的梦想的房子出价高得令他们用普通话尖叫。
  And I shudder to imagine their feeling when they see the very house they missed out back on the market within a couple of months, this time, with 200k added on top … meanwhile, a champagne is uncorked at another New Zealand property expo in China.

  最近接受Newshub采访时我被问到是否对中国元素铺天盖地的情况有所担心?我的回答是不会的,从来不会有一种民族支配另一个民族。要不然就会变成了赤裸裸的民族主义。
  It is about how do you want your Auckland and your New Zealand to be? Do we want trained, skilled professionals to bring our economy to the next level or all we want to see is another Chinese restaurant around the corner, or foreign visitors mistaking Auckland for China?

  新西兰优先党温斯顿.彼得斯说,许多移民因为去不了加拿大、美国、英国、和澳大利亚、所以才选择移民了新西兰。他是对的。
  At least it is a well perceived notion among my fellow Chinese that only the “less fortunate” choose New Zealand.

  这样的后果就是我们接纳了低层次的移民,他们不想接受我们的文化,也没有创立能为新西兰人提供工作岗位的包容性企业的意向。
  In the event of any of the above-mentioned countries loosening their immigration policies brace yourself for a downward ride: far fewer people will be willing to pay the same for your home or to lease your shop.

  原因在于令人振奋的人口增长已经反应到了房地产市场上,同时房产市场也会被更大的假设所刺激,卖方会假设中国人会出更高的价格。这是最糟的非理性繁荣。
  It is time for us New Zealanders to rethink.

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  Simple solution 1st criteria to purchase land or property in NZ should be the simple question can a kiwi by property in the foreigners homeland if the answer is no then that foreigner cant purchase. Do this and the whole property problem goes away.

  Lance Hapeta ・ Yesterday at 1:14am +17
  然后他们很容易地变成了富有的公民,接着买遍所有房产!你不可能赢过他们。他们钱多有决定权。

  James Sinclair Im a permanent resident. It takes five years to become a citizen. Why should our family have to rent for five years??!! Bugger off.

  Jim James ・ Yesterday at 1:16am
  自由交易不容许这种抢夺行为。

  Dont be naive. Chinese people buy properties in Australia under their friends and relatives names to avoid foreign investment restriction. That doesnt work

  Michael Ross ・ 23 hrs +10
  抢劫合理化,不是所有的国家在产权制度上有和我们一样的体系-比如,中国人都不能在中国购买地产;他们必须从政府那里租赁,因为共产主义和“人民”-实际上是政府-拥有所有的产权。

  Land is over one million per square meter where they come from. Or it was ten years ago.
  Frankly I dont think kiwis have a clue
  再加上有数亿的人。

  James Sinclair ・ 23 hrs +10
  Michael Ross在国外生活的费用……算了吧。

  James Sinclair If it was made citizens only (and thats NOT happening!) we would just use a trust or a shell company to make the purchase. Theres a hundred ways around that so whats the point in making it difficult for apprentice kiwis trying to make their life here???

  Jon Barnett ・ 23 hrs +2
  这不能解决问题,事实是大多数的移民都来自欧洲和英国,在这些国家新西兰人可以购买房产。

  We bring in immigrants who are buying our houses and business and are richer than most people who are a newzealander to begin with we are being bought off for capital gain and is a joke there are to any immigrants here already I mean I saw two Indians driving a 200k masserati mind my spelling what does that say we are selling off to the rich and they will buy up Nz shamefull politics I say

  Andrew Chiu Kit Tsang ・ 23 hrs +2
  Justin Eagle Hong Kong是的。中国视情况而定,但是中国仍然是共产主义国家,没有一套完善的法律制度来保护私人财产和产权。

  John Key purposely want Chinese investors to buy overpriced and over inflated Auckland real estate.

  Ratana Raymond Taurua ・ 23 hrs
  新西兰绝对不是为对外出售的。

  Here I make it clear you can buy both property and land in HK but only property in China. When you buy the property in china the price includes your cost to lease the relevant land up to 50-70 years for residential but 30-50 years for commercial. Normally when the lease term is due you will pay for lease again for the next same term. Once you have paid for the lease you wont need to pay something like council rates every year. There is a risk to the property owner who may lose the land once the term is due.

  Malcolm Roberts ・ 23 hrs +1
  Michael Ross, 新西兰人能有什么对等知识产权保护?你来自哪个国家?

  Malcolm Roberts I have dual US/UK citizenship so kiwis can buy any property there without restriction.

  Maya Richardson ・ 22 hrs +2
  像新西兰的情况一样,中国人正在买光澳大利亚。普通的澳洲工薪阶层在悉尼再也买不起房子了。

  Its all very simple but politics makes things a big DRAMA.

  Smith Stone ・ 21 hrs +3
  政治家们应该听听人民的心声,但是他们没有。他们的傲慢和自大正在损害这个国家。希望新西兰人能够像欧洲人一样,积极地走上马路游行示威。

  True…. they get loans from Chinese banks on 1% interest. N this is only for Chinese.

  Mark Baker ・ 21 hrs
  Maya Richardson,哦,凡人自有凡人福。

  Michael Ross as long as you can get in and the U.K. Has made that difficult for years!

  Michael Ross ・ 20 hrs
  Pam Rae,不是这样的。在英国任何人都能买房产;不限制你是否居住在那或是有英国国籍或者在那有住所。付钱就有所有权,很简单。

  Ray Chen leasing a property is not buying a property. Its only leasing you never owned it.

  Mike James ・ 19 hrs
  Justin Eagle ,不,你可以租赁房屋。

  Whats the problem with “two Indians driving a 200k ” masserati” Anthony Austin?

  Alfonso Kolonga Mc Intosh ・ 16 hrs
  谢谢你,我也正想说 这件事。

  Michael Ross just curious. ..can someone buy property and live in the US or do you need to get citizenship…if you are a Kiwi ?

  Mike Hughes ・ 11 hrs
  Victoria Palmer,如果是个新西兰人你当然可以在美国买房产,并不要求你是美国居民。你可以来你的房子里度假。想成为居民是另一码事。

  Michael Ross Why shouldnt you if you were really keen on becoming a kiwi and living in New Zealand you wouldnt mind

  Michael Ross ・ 9 hrs
  Victoria Palmer,任何人都可以在美国买房产,美国是个自由的市场。

  Marie Roberts We came to NZ as immigrants with permanent residence. Ive lived in NZ for fours years; one more year and Ill be a citizen. The first thing we did was buy a house before we even came here so we would have a roof over our heads when we arrived. But if James Sinclair (see above) had his way we wouldnt have been allowed to own a house – because were permanent residents not citizens. Thats just stupid and nasty and pointless; that was my point.

  Pam Rae ・ 7 hrs
  Michael Ross为啥你买了房子却不能住??

  Thats why www have a housing problem ! You can purchase a house and land and you didnt live here! That loophole needs to be closed that is why you should be allowed to buy land until you are a citizen. Sorry but thes the truth

  Harry Bidois ・ 7 hrs +1
  中国将领会拥有并控制这个国家。国家政府已经让特洛伊木马进入的太晚了。

  you must have an NZ residency or Citizenship to buy any property in Auckland and possibly all of NZ. problem solved

  James Brett ・ 12 hrs +4
  他们可能会付钱给其他中国人,以他们的名义购房。

  Or non-Chinese. Were in a syndicate doing just that. Sorry about it. Nothing personal its just business.

  Ravin Malarao ・ 12 hrs +1
  国籍是最低的要求。

  Permanent residents and citizens to be able to buy property

  Michael Ross ・ 9 hrs
  毫无意义;如果你想买房毫无影响;你可以不以自己的名义,通过信贷组织或公司名义来买。

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